Comments on: The Unexpected Angle http://www.natashafondren.com/writing/writing-craft/the-unexpected-angle/ Adventures in Writing on the Road Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:01:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Natasha Fondren http://www.natashafondren.com/writing/writing-craft/the-unexpected-angle/comment-page-1/#comment-1110 Natasha Fondren Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:57:17 +0000 http://www.natashafondren.com/writing/writing-craft/the-unexpected-angle/#comment-1110 So true, Robin! Yes, yes, yes! So true, Robin! Yes, yes, yes!

]]> By: Natasha Fondren http://www.natashafondren.com/writing/writing-craft/the-unexpected-angle/comment-page-1/#comment-1109 Natasha Fondren Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:56:53 +0000 http://www.natashafondren.com/writing/writing-craft/the-unexpected-angle/#comment-1109 Oh YES, Rafae! I hate when authors do that! I hate when surprises are contrived, or when they're not rooted early in the story. Deus ex machina makes me batty, LOL! Oh YES, Rafae! I hate when authors do that! I hate when surprises are contrived, or when they’re not rooted early in the story. Deus ex machina makes me batty, LOL!

]]> By: Natasha Fondren http://www.natashafondren.com/writing/writing-craft/the-unexpected-angle/comment-page-1/#comment-1108 Natasha Fondren Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:55:46 +0000 http://www.natashafondren.com/writing/writing-craft/the-unexpected-angle/#comment-1108 :-) :-)

]]> By: Robin Altman http://www.natashafondren.com/writing/writing-craft/the-unexpected-angle/comment-page-1/#comment-1107 Robin Altman Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:37:01 +0000 http://www.natashafondren.com/writing/writing-craft/the-unexpected-angle/#comment-1107 I have to agree with Rafae, here. I love a good surprise, but I think it's silly when I read a book or story that is obviously bending over backwards (it could break its poor spine) to be "different". Like if the heroine is a psychotic lesbian politian pole dancing opera singer. I have to agree with Rafae, here. I love a good surprise, but I think it’s silly when I read a book or story that is obviously bending over backwards (it could break its poor spine) to be “different”. Like if the heroine is a psychotic lesbian politian pole dancing opera singer.

]]> By: Rafae; http://www.natashafondren.com/writing/writing-craft/the-unexpected-angle/comment-page-1/#comment-1103 Rafae; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:58:36 +0000 http://www.natashafondren.com/writing/writing-craft/the-unexpected-angle/#comment-1103 You got to reward the readers for their cleverness if nothing else. Now, a slight curve here or there is fine, it shows that things are still not exactly what they appear to be without insulting the readers intelligence. I really hate it when the an author tries to "surprise" me by doing something that violates the internal logic of the story just to keep things interesting. You got to reward the readers for their cleverness if nothing else. Now, a slight curve here or there is fine, it shows that things are still not exactly what they appear to be without insulting the readers intelligence. I really hate it when the an author tries to “surprise” me by doing something that violates the internal logic of the story just to keep things interesting.

]]> By: Charles Gramlich http://www.natashafondren.com/writing/writing-craft/the-unexpected-angle/comment-page-1/#comment-1101 Charles Gramlich Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:02:01 +0000 http://www.natashafondren.com/writing/writing-craft/the-unexpected-angle/#comment-1101 Excellent point. I agree wholeheartedly. Excellent point. I agree wholeheartedly.

]]> By: Natasha Fondren http://www.natashafondren.com/writing/writing-craft/the-unexpected-angle/comment-page-1/#comment-1098 Natasha Fondren Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:19:22 +0000 http://www.natashafondren.com/writing/writing-craft/the-unexpected-angle/#comment-1098 The risk! I get it, Erica. I think I saw getting away with things, and I immediately honed in on that challenge, LOL. At least my subconscious got the point, LOL! XD The risk! I get it, Erica. I think I saw getting away with things, and I immediately honed in on that challenge, LOL. At least my subconscious got the point, LOL! XD

]]> By: Erica Orloff http://www.natashafondren.com/writing/writing-craft/the-unexpected-angle/comment-page-1/#comment-1097 Erica Orloff Sat, 12 Sep 2009 12:09:05 +0000 http://www.natashafondren.com/writing/writing-craft/the-unexpected-angle/#comment-1097 Wow . . . we're synced, since this was kind of the point of my blog post yesterday. LOL! xo E Wow . . . we’re synced, since this was kind of the point of my blog post yesterday. LOL!

xo
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]]> By: Natasha Fondren http://www.natashafondren.com/writing/writing-craft/the-unexpected-angle/comment-page-1/#comment-1096 Natasha Fondren Sat, 12 Sep 2009 05:46:52 +0000 http://www.natashafondren.com/writing/writing-craft/the-unexpected-angle/#comment-1096 I swear, every time you curse, I mentally say, "Joey cursed!" Poor you. I just have to enjoy the transition a little. :-) It's fun. For me, at least. That's an interesting point, the "need" thing. I could go along with that... in my mental world, I do separate what they want and what they think they want. (Certainly had to with piano parents, LOL!) It's more, for me, I give them the experience they want, but I don't necessarily deliver it in the way they want, and I try to surprise them. I wouldn't say at all that Gaiman gives readers what they want; if anything, this example proves he gives them the opposite. :-) But an awareness and understanding of the reader seems to be a trait among uber-successful genre writers across the board. And Dickens, my hero. :-) Doesn't apply to literary fiction, though. :-) If one is going to write effectively, though, one needs to understand the effect what one do has on the reader, so as better to manipulate them. XD I swear, every time you curse, I mentally say, “Joey cursed!” Poor you. I just have to enjoy the transition a little. :-) It’s fun. For me, at least.

That’s an interesting point, the “need” thing. I could go along with that… in my mental world, I do separate what they want and what they think they want. (Certainly had to with piano parents, LOL!) It’s more, for me, I give them the experience they want, but I don’t necessarily deliver it in the way they want, and I try to surprise them.

I wouldn’t say at all that Gaiman gives readers what they want; if anything, this example proves he gives them the opposite. :-) But an awareness and understanding of the reader seems to be a trait among uber-successful genre writers across the board. And Dickens, my hero. :-)

Doesn’t apply to literary fiction, though. :-) If one is going to write effectively, though, one needs to understand the effect what one do has on the reader, so as better to manipulate them. XD

]]> By: Natasha Fondren http://www.natashafondren.com/writing/writing-craft/the-unexpected-angle/comment-page-1/#comment-1095 Natasha Fondren Sat, 12 Sep 2009 05:35:20 +0000 http://www.natashafondren.com/writing/writing-craft/the-unexpected-angle/#comment-1095 Me too, Edie! Me too, Edie!

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